I have given 100 points extra for its innovative approach even though it is slower than the previous Live CD.
This may be the result of KDE 4 but not the fault of the YOPER Team.
Its web site is simple but very effective and finding the downloads page was difficult.
They should go for a magazine like PCLinux.
It is well behind PCLinux but very close to ArchLinux for some unknown reason I tend to like the Arch Live CD better which include CrunchBang.
The pick is yours not mine.
I am downloading the LXDE and I bet it is much faster than the standard edition.
Anyway it is in the top bracket.
Saturday, April 24, 2010
Thursday, April 22, 2010
InfinityOS-13
Xubuntu is a Xfce derivative promoted to be multimedia CD and it has gnome based software.
Its performance is average but games ready distributions.It has no office packages.
Gets 545 from 750 points.It's desktop is attractively laid down with some clarity.
I am one who is critical about Ubuntu cannot promote it without reservation.
If you are an Ubuntu fan you should keep it for your games and download some more games.
Unfortunately nothing educational for children.
Its performance is average but games ready distributions.It has no office packages.
Gets 545 from 750 points.It's desktop is attractively laid down with some clarity.
I am one who is critical about Ubuntu cannot promote it without reservation.
If you are an Ubuntu fan you should keep it for your games and download some more games.
Unfortunately nothing educational for children.
Wednesday, April 21, 2010
CentOS-12
Coming from Redhat base has committed the same offence of not keeping pace with the Desktop Community.
It has scored the worse possible scenario.
Less than 400 points out of 750.
Live CD version is one I would not recommend to anybody.
It has a long way to go. Unfortunately it is heavy on the RAM not light weight.
Only good thing and the positive comment is for its ability to detect hardware easily.
I hope it will do a good job next time around and take a cue from PCLinux's Zen Mini Me and start from there.
PCLinux which comes Mandriva is basically Redhat derivative.
They should go back to the drawing board.
Fortunately they have produced 6 CD version and I have only downloaded 2 CDs currently.
I would edit this page once the job of downloading is completed which is painfully slow in Sri-Lanka.
I am sorry guys / girls I am harsh on you.
Take it in good spirit!Linux guys are good at that perhaps not girls!
It has scored the worse possible scenario.
Less than 400 points out of 750.
Live CD version is one I would not recommend to anybody.
It has a long way to go. Unfortunately it is heavy on the RAM not light weight.
Only good thing and the positive comment is for its ability to detect hardware easily.
I hope it will do a good job next time around and take a cue from PCLinux's Zen Mini Me and start from there.
PCLinux which comes Mandriva is basically Redhat derivative.
They should go back to the drawing board.
Fortunately they have produced 6 CD version and I have only downloaded 2 CDs currently.
I would edit this page once the job of downloading is completed which is painfully slow in Sri-Lanka.
I am sorry guys / girls I am harsh on you.
Take it in good spirit!Linux guys are good at that perhaps not girls!
Friday, April 16, 2010
BerryLinux-11
Berry linux is like a red cherry to me.
It is one of the little distributions that I have in my laptop and desktop for show off.
It is pretty and cute.
Coming from Japan it has a English version unlike Vine and the little known and commercial version of TurboLinux (Japanese).
It seems some Japanese guys are suavy (Linux Guys / Girls) entering the global market in style like Chinese.
It gets over 800 points above my solid base line of 750.
Incidentally this was the first distribution I wanted to write about but for some unknown reason I started with Linux Mint.
Thank God for my lapses that it has had two new releases and today I saw it's mini version.
Currently I am downloading it and the time I am waiting for it to be downloaded is used for this piece of writing.
The extra 50 points above the 750 points that I awarded was for this reason alone even without testing it.
I am pretty sure it is going to be good (not scientific? who cares?) even without seeing it.
It has wine which is an added bonus.
It is light and fast but only hitch was it's Grub file which is unstable coming from Fedora base.
It cannot detect other multiple distributions efficiently.
Therefore one needs to install it first before other Linux distributions.In another few minutes it will be downloaded (mini Version) and let me sign off now.
If need be, I will edit this page soon.
I tested the Mini it boots up well in Japanese but hangs up and goes into a reboot cycle.
I suppose one needs to edit the mistakes in English that goes to a "go to cycle" instead of next line of command and activity.
English is a funny Language!
It is one of the little distributions that I have in my laptop and desktop for show off.
It is pretty and cute.
Coming from Japan it has a English version unlike Vine and the little known and commercial version of TurboLinux (Japanese).
It seems some Japanese guys are suavy (Linux Guys / Girls) entering the global market in style like Chinese.
It gets over 800 points above my solid base line of 750.
Incidentally this was the first distribution I wanted to write about but for some unknown reason I started with Linux Mint.
Thank God for my lapses that it has had two new releases and today I saw it's mini version.
Currently I am downloading it and the time I am waiting for it to be downloaded is used for this piece of writing.
The extra 50 points above the 750 points that I awarded was for this reason alone even without testing it.
I am pretty sure it is going to be good (not scientific? who cares?) even without seeing it.
It has wine which is an added bonus.
It is light and fast but only hitch was it's Grub file which is unstable coming from Fedora base.
It cannot detect other multiple distributions efficiently.
Therefore one needs to install it first before other Linux distributions.In another few minutes it will be downloaded (mini Version) and let me sign off now.
If need be, I will edit this page soon.
I tested the Mini it boots up well in Japanese but hangs up and goes into a reboot cycle.
I suppose one needs to edit the mistakes in English that goes to a "go to cycle" instead of next line of command and activity.
English is a funny Language!
CrunchBang-10
This gets a whopping 1000 points well above the standard 750, a distributions get with my scheme, simple because of its resource pool.
It is Debian based, light weight, OpenBox and has synaptic Package Manger which gets you even blender and many games and scientific software.
Internet access is easy and gets you both to CrunchBang and OpenBox Home Page in addition to the resource pool of software.
I wonder why I did not know about it till now.
Probably wise and hard working Linux People do not boast or start Flame Wars.
Hats off to guys and girls at CrunchBang and it goes without saying that the distribution goes with a bang.
They do not need a bandwagon!
It is Debian based, light weight, OpenBox and has synaptic Package Manger which gets you even blender and many games and scientific software.
Internet access is easy and gets you both to CrunchBang and OpenBox Home Page in addition to the resource pool of software.
I wonder why I did not know about it till now.
Probably wise and hard working Linux People do not boast or start Flame Wars.
Hats off to guys and girls at CrunchBang and it goes without saying that the distribution goes with a bang.
They do not need a bandwagon!
Thursday, April 15, 2010
ArchBang-09
ArchBang come with a bang, Based on openbox it is sleek and fast.
Live CD detects the graphic card and make a query before configuring.
It has Google chromium and connects to the Internet super fast indeed.
It has packages for monitoring the users as well as the RAM and CPU use.
It is fantastic.
For its 450 MB throughput it gets whopping 725 out 0f 750.
It has gparted and installation is Debian base bit like Yoper.
Mind you it is not only live it can be installed too.
It has basic graphic and multimedia capability but lacks a CD writer utility.
What I really like about is it has Abiword light.This Mickey Mouse can do things (Abiword Light) what Microsoft (Word 2007) Gorilla in the dinner party does in a fraction of a second.
Hope they will add a CD burner in their next release.
It is an excellent light weight (not coming from LXDE) distribution.
Live CD detects the graphic card and make a query before configuring.
It has Google chromium and connects to the Internet super fast indeed.
It has packages for monitoring the users as well as the RAM and CPU use.
It is fantastic.
For its 450 MB throughput it gets whopping 725 out 0f 750.
It has gparted and installation is Debian base bit like Yoper.
Mind you it is not only live it can be installed too.
It has basic graphic and multimedia capability but lacks a CD writer utility.
What I really like about is it has Abiword light.This Mickey Mouse can do things (Abiword Light) what Microsoft (Word 2007) Gorilla in the dinner party does in a fraction of a second.
Hope they will add a CD burner in their next release.
It is an excellent light weight (not coming from LXDE) distribution.
Wednesday, April 14, 2010
Granular-08
Live CD scores 750 out of 750 and is a excellent live CD. It boots up fast and have lot of multimedia and audio software. CD burner is although an old version is K3B.
Desktop is sleek but little difficult to manipulate due large number of software included in the CD (should not consider as a weakness).
Packaging a lot in a CD is no easy task.
The departure from Abiword and Open Office and using K office is a good idea.
It has Skype and Adobe Reader with the DVD (heavy) version.
The DVD version even though heavy in content has blender and get over 1300 points.
I am going to install the DVD version and test the Blender and Adobe.
It is a good additional companion distribution to be installed with your favorite Linux.
Desktop is sleek but little difficult to manipulate due large number of software included in the CD (should not consider as a weakness).
Packaging a lot in a CD is no easy task.
The departure from Abiword and Open Office and using K office is a good idea.
It has Skype and Adobe Reader with the DVD (heavy) version.
The DVD version even though heavy in content has blender and get over 1300 points.
I am going to install the DVD version and test the Blender and Adobe.
It is a good additional companion distribution to be installed with your favorite Linux.
Tuesday, April 13, 2010
Chakra-07
Chakra has come of age.
It gets 740 out of 750.
It is light weight and has light weight Document Viewer instead of Abiword and Open office.
This change is a revelation for me having criticized both Open Office and Office 7.
I hear there is a light weight AbiWord too.
It has Skype, K3B and many attractions and has Arch base which is fast and efficient.
If you are fed up with heavy SuSe and Mandriva this is the one which fits your needs.
Its black background at installation is not suitable for an old man like me (I can put up with it, though) but this is probably a way to free RAM at installation.
I found it difficult to locate flash buttons and click buttons and they should improve on this in the next version.
It gets 740 out of 750.
It is light weight and has light weight Document Viewer instead of Abiword and Open office.
This change is a revelation for me having criticized both Open Office and Office 7.
I hear there is a light weight AbiWord too.
It has Skype, K3B and many attractions and has Arch base which is fast and efficient.
If you are fed up with heavy SuSe and Mandriva this is the one which fits your needs.
Its black background at installation is not suitable for an old man like me (I can put up with it, though) but this is probably a way to free RAM at installation.
I found it difficult to locate flash buttons and click buttons and they should improve on this in the next version.
ArchOne for Acer-06
ArchOne gets 905 well above the 750 points but not a light weight CD.
It is a DVD around 1.1 GB and has open office and Skype and Google inputs,
It is for Acer laptop but may work for other laptops.
I checked it on my laptop.
It is better than the previous version which I had problem with booting on my desktop.
It's a K-desktop is elegant.
Have fun and Arch flavour is going to last.
It is a DVD around 1.1 GB and has open office and Skype and Google inputs,
It is for Acer laptop but may work for other laptops.
I checked it on my laptop.
It is better than the previous version which I had problem with booting on my desktop.
It's a K-desktop is elegant.
Have fun and Arch flavour is going to last.
Monday, April 12, 2010
Ubuntu Family
Ubuntu
I am currently downloading Chackra for testing, since the previous version had some glitches with the Grub and partitioning. It is going to take more than one hour for the last 100 MB on a holiday evening (Tamil and Sinhala New Year) in Sri-Lanka (we have a super highway, electronically speaking, thanks to Telecom). While waiting is painful on a holiday after dinner, let me pen down few thoughts about Ubuntu in general and few specifics about Debian Linux.
Debian is the God Father of Linux. its latest 504 has 35 CDS for download and first CD I downloaded has a corrupt file unfortunately.
You can get my point, even a Linux Addict like me get put off by simple incorrigible inconveniences like slow speed and corrupt files.
So me trying to convert you to Debian is simply improper but remember it is the God Father.
If you want to enter the Inner Circle of Linux, you must have at least the first 7 of the 35 CDS available for download.
Remember that Debian spawned the Ubuntu Flavour to Linux.
My grouse with Ubuntu is and was that the desktop version does not have the Root Permission at install.
Coming from Redhat lineage this put me off completely when Ubuntu came to the scene. It did not have a server version too.
I was vocal then and this has been rectified now.
Beauty of Ubuntu is that it spawned numerous other beauties like gOS.3.1-gadgets, Linux Mint and Super OS.
I will be writing on Super OS soon.
So all what I write about the three mentioned above applies to Ububtu barring few missing software like Skype and Flash.
There is another problem with Ubuntu.
Since many are accessing their site the download speed is slow. I downloaded the version 10 but had trouble with version 9.
I had to resort to the inevitable for asking a copy form their home site.
They promptly did that including a copy of server and Kububtu.
Kububtu is superb!
Thanks to all the guys and girls at Ububtu for all what they do for the Linux Community.
Debian is the God Father of Linux. its latest 504 has 35 CDS for download and first CD I downloaded has a corrupt file unfortunately.
You can get my point, even a Linux Addict like me get put off by simple incorrigible inconveniences like slow speed and corrupt files.
So me trying to convert you to Debian is simply improper but remember it is the God Father.
If you want to enter the Inner Circle of Linux, you must have at least the first 7 of the 35 CDS available for download.
Remember that Debian spawned the Ubuntu Flavour to Linux.
My grouse with Ubuntu is and was that the desktop version does not have the Root Permission at install.
Coming from Redhat lineage this put me off completely when Ubuntu came to the scene. It did not have a server version too.
I was vocal then and this has been rectified now.
Beauty of Ubuntu is that it spawned numerous other beauties like gOS.3.1-gadgets, Linux Mint and Super OS.
I will be writing on Super OS soon.
So all what I write about the three mentioned above applies to Ububtu barring few missing software like Skype and Flash.
There is another problem with Ubuntu.
Since many are accessing their site the download speed is slow. I downloaded the version 10 but had trouble with version 9.
I had to resort to the inevitable for asking a copy form their home site.
They promptly did that including a copy of server and Kububtu.
Kububtu is superb!
Thanks to all the guys and girls at Ububtu for all what they do for the Linux Community.
Saturday, April 10, 2010
Tiny Me-05
This distribution of only 200 MB got 645 marks and boots up fast and installable.
It has features similar to Damn Small Linux with gparted for hard disk partitioning,
Unlike the previous version it detects hardware fast.
Even though my favorite is DSL for its utility role this has everything for an emergency including editor and abiword and fits in your shirt pocket (a Live mini CD like DSL).
However it has no CD writer but it can create a live CD.
It has features similar to Damn Small Linux with gparted for hard disk partitioning,
Unlike the previous version it detects hardware fast.
Even though my favorite is DSL for its utility role this has everything for an emergency including editor and abiword and fits in your shirt pocket (a Live mini CD like DSL).
However it has no CD writer but it can create a live CD.
Thursday, April 8, 2010
PC/OS-04
PC OS
This distribution got 640 points out of 750 for its less than 700 MB content.
Based on Ubuntu it detects hardware easily but web edition is poor in detection of LCD diplays and boots up quickly.
Its partitioning tool is gParted.
It comes closely behind Linux Mint.
It has Skype and Microsoft mail facility.
Its desktop is Xfce and the graphics are not impressive coming from Xfce but it is a good utility Linux distribution
Try it for fun!
Unfortunately it does not link up with its home page with Live CD.
They should improve the web edition with links to home page and some addition of Google gadgets like gOS instead of promoting Microsoft.
This distribution got 640 points out of 750 for its less than 700 MB content.
Based on Ubuntu it detects hardware easily but web edition is poor in detection of LCD diplays and boots up quickly.
Its partitioning tool is gParted.
It comes closely behind Linux Mint.
It has Skype and Microsoft mail facility.
Its desktop is Xfce and the graphics are not impressive coming from Xfce but it is a good utility Linux distribution
Try it for fun!
Unfortunately it does not link up with its home page with Live CD.
They should improve the web edition with links to home page and some addition of Google gadgets like gOS instead of promoting Microsoft.
Monday, April 5, 2010
BeatriX-03
It is the Beatrix Potter type of distribution.
It is no wonder this little distribution got 545 points out of 750 for its less than 200 MB content.
Based on Knoppix it detects old hardware easily and boots up quickly.
Its partitioning is basic for old computer with less than 20 GB.
I use it as a demonstration Mini CD.
Compared to Damn Small Linux (DSL) it can be used on a daily basis and has open office 1.1.
It even detected a LCD but with a warning screen for possible incompatibility.
If you have an old computer in the garage this will make it “born again”.
Try it for fun!
Unfortunately nobody seems to maintain it.
Somebody should activate it and include some children games with Disney mentality
It is no wonder this little distribution got 545 points out of 750 for its less than 200 MB content.
Based on Knoppix it detects old hardware easily and boots up quickly.
Its partitioning is basic for old computer with less than 20 GB.
I use it as a demonstration Mini CD.
Compared to Damn Small Linux (DSL) it can be used on a daily basis and has open office 1.1.
It even detected a LCD but with a warning screen for possible incompatibility.
If you have an old computer in the garage this will make it “born again”.
Try it for fun!
Unfortunately nobody seems to maintain it.
Somebody should activate it and include some children games with Disney mentality
gOS-02
gOS-3.1-gadgets scores 740 out of 750 points and for a young newbie who spends most of the time browsing there is nothing to compare with.
All Google gadgets are displaced with an apple look and feel.
It is an excellent distribution which boots up fast unlike the previous gOS, has sound effects too.
If one wants to go dizzy in space he can go and download gOS space, which has excellent graphic effects.
My graphic card could barely manage its effects.
One should have a good graphic card if one is using it.
It is excellent if you are going for utility rather than Linux savvy!
Asoka with Linux
All Google gadgets are displaced with an apple look and feel.
It is an excellent distribution which boots up fast unlike the previous gOS, has sound effects too.
If one wants to go dizzy in space he can go and download gOS space, which has excellent graphic effects.
My graphic card could barely manage its effects.
One should have a good graphic card if one is using it.
It is excellent if you are going for utility rather than Linux savvy!
Asoka with Linux
Sunday, April 4, 2010
Linux Mint-LXDE-01
With much thought I have formulated a marking scheme for all Linux distributions from LXDE, to Live CD to DVD and special dedicated distributions for kids, education and science.
For a Live LXDE I give 750 points.
For a good Live, stable and installable CD I give 1000 points.
My gold standard is PC Linux 2009.2 which gets 1200 well above the 1000 marks.
For a comprehensive DVD the minimum is 3000 but could go up to 4000 points on its needs.
I just tabulated Linux Mint 8 LXDE and got a score of 705 out of 750.
It has no games even for a light evening.
Taking from Ubuntu it major weakness is not having an administrator.
No Skype and K3B.
Otherwise it is sleek, beautiful and elegant.
I would like to give it a newbee.
For a Live LXDE I give 750 points.
For a good Live, stable and installable CD I give 1000 points.
My gold standard is PC Linux 2009.2 which gets 1200 well above the 1000 marks.
For a comprehensive DVD the minimum is 3000 but could go up to 4000 points on its needs.
I just tabulated Linux Mint 8 LXDE and got a score of 705 out of 750.
It has no games even for a light evening.
Taking from Ubuntu it major weakness is not having an administrator.
No Skype and K3B.
Otherwise it is sleek, beautiful and elegant.
I would like to give it a newbee.
Saturday, April 3, 2010
Linux-100-Criteria
I have over 200 distributions and images stored all over my hard disks and CDs and DVDs and I continue to download at least a few more of them a week to test.
My search for (looking for) best hundred has being of no avail.
It is time for me to do it myself for the benefit of Linux fans and newbies.
Internet has being immensely helpful.
First of all I must thank the guys / girls of the following non-commercial sources and few commercial sources.
Number one goes to www.Distromania.com since they keep a catalog of old distributions and and also list the new and latest distributions.
www.Distrowatch.com also doing a good job of it but unfortunately they seem to miss some of the old ones.
Softpedia com has enormous number of pages and like Distrowatch.com do not keep a repository of old distribution images and their links.
Linux online also list distribution in their site.
Linux Live CD list is the only one which list the distributions according to to the types, education, games. desktop, multimedia. science, medicine etc.
My search for (looking for) best hundred has being of no avail.
It is time for me to do it myself for the benefit of Linux fans and newbies.
Internet has being immensely helpful.
First of all I must thank the guys / girls of the following non-commercial sources and few commercial sources.
Number one goes to www.Distromania.com since they keep a catalog of old distributions and and also list the new and latest distributions.
www.Distrowatch.com also doing a good job of it but unfortunately they seem to miss some of the old ones.
Softpedia com has enormous number of pages and like Distrowatch.com do not keep a repository of old distribution images and their links.
Linux online also list distribution in their site.
Linux Live CD list is the only one which list the distributions according to to the types, education, games. desktop, multimedia. science, medicine etc.
I recommend this site for anybody who is choosy for a particular type say for kids, education.
Elive for at least releasing the development version free.
There are many more and thanks to all of them.
Couple of years ago the story was different one had to browse or read a Linux Bible to gather information, Now these guys who write books do not bother to update them since the task is extremely difficult due to the pace at which Linux is moving.
Only a rocket scientist can keep pace with.
My attempt is to fill this void.
I thought of using somewhat scientific approach using my own criteria.
My criteria are based the practical difficulties we face in this country due to poor (comparatively better compared to India but no where near the capabilities of Singapore) Internet service and download speed.
It is practically impossible to download a DVD more than 1 GB.
It takes ages even for that.
So I have concentrated on CD rather than DVDs.
My impression, it is better for us to have number of CDS rather than DVDs.
I used to download up to 7 Debian CDS in the past when we had only Redhat and Mandriva.
So I have concentrated on CD rather than DVDs.
My impression, it is better for us to have number of CDS rather than DVDs.
I used to download up to 7 Debian CDS in the past when we had only Redhat and Mandriva.
To decide my 100 Linux distributions of choice I will use many criteria.
1. Live CD which can be installed on hard disk 25 points
2. Easy access to Internet 20 points
3. Automatically Configure Internet 30 points
4. Browser (ideally FireFox) Capability 10 points
5. Other browsers 05 points
6. Google gadgets but not essential 10 points
7. Skype 15 points
8. Office Package (Abiword or Open office) 15 points
9. Light Weight (very important) 30 points
10. CD burner, very important(ideally K3B) 20 for K3B and 5 for others
11. Stable Grub configuration 30 points
12. Partitioning tool is essential(ideally Gparted) 30 points
13. Light weight games 20 points
14. Ability to clean up the temporary file at boot up 50 points
15. Updates and Package management 10 points
16. Reliability (most of them are) 50 points
17. Many versions form Mini to LXDE to Standard and Children's 25 points for each
18. Speed at start up (most of them are slow except YOPER) 100 points
19. Quick installation 20 points
20. Multi-Language in addition to English 25 points
21. Separate administrator in addition to normal user 50 points
22. Digikam and Gimp 20 points
23. Media Players including ability play itunes and divx 30 points
24. Type of Desktops (Genome / KDE/ Fluxbox) 25 points
25. Down loader that start from where one has left / stopped earlier 50 points
26. Infrequent Cycles of Change (new distributions) but frequent updates 50 points
27. USB boot op 30 points
28. Live CD creator 20 points
29. Wine (window emulation) 20 points
30. Apple Emulation 30 points
31. Innovative approach like GOBO and YOPER 100 points
6. Google gadgets but not essential 10 points
7. Skype 15 points
8. Office Package (Abiword or Open office) 15 points
9. Light Weight (very important) 30 points
10. CD burner, very important(ideally K3B) 20 for K3B and 5 for others
11. Stable Grub configuration 30 points
12. Partitioning tool is essential(ideally Gparted) 30 points
13. Light weight games 20 points
14. Ability to clean up the temporary file at boot up 50 points
15. Updates and Package management 10 points
16. Reliability (most of them are) 50 points
17. Many versions form Mini to LXDE to Standard and Children's 25 points for each
18. Speed at start up (most of them are slow except YOPER) 100 points
19. Quick installation 20 points
20. Multi-Language in addition to English 25 points
21. Separate administrator in addition to normal user 50 points
22. Digikam and Gimp 20 points
23. Media Players including ability play itunes and divx 30 points
24. Type of Desktops (Genome / KDE/ Fluxbox) 25 points
25. Down loader that start from where one has left / stopped earlier 50 points
26. Infrequent Cycles of Change (new distributions) but frequent updates 50 points
27. USB boot op 30 points
28. Live CD creator 20 points
29. Wine (window emulation) 20 points
30. Apple Emulation 30 points
31. Innovative approach like GOBO and YOPER 100 points
32. Home web site and the facility for registration and writing reviews 100 points
33, Scientific packages like statistics 100 points
33, Scientific packages like statistics 100 points
34. Blender (Maya equivalent) 200 points
35. Children Educational packages with games 300 points
I will start with Linux Mint, gos 3.1 gadgets and Berry to begin with, which is a cute one.
Children educational packages I have given bonus marks since they should be developed as separate distributions such as youknow4kids, Knoppix for kids and sugar.
Asoka
I will start with Linux Mint, gos 3.1 gadgets and Berry to begin with, which is a cute one.
Children educational packages I have given bonus marks since they should be developed as separate distributions such as youknow4kids, Knoppix for kids and sugar.
Asoka
4th April, 2010
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