Yes, it all started with AVL Me and MX Moksha.
MX Linux is completely different from Debian Gnome.
I started Linux with Mepis (defunct ) Desktop to Debian.
Mepis ended up as MX Linux.
Moksha and AVL Me are derivatives
AVL Audio Video Linux which I used during 32 bit Era.
Enlightenment Desktop also come from that Era.
ELive guys try to make completely commercial desktop on Enlightenment just like Elementary OS tried to use Panthen Desktop.
Well I got Pantheon design through BIG Linux.
This adventure can be done only on Linux.
Long Live Linux.
3L instead of 3M ( medical equipment ).